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	Comments on: First U.S City To Be Lit With 100% LEDs: Ann Arbor	</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://metaefficient.com/uncategorized/ann-arbor-to-be-first-city-to-be-lit-with-100-leds.html/comment-page-1#comment-728957&quot;&gt;David Keech&lt;/a&gt;.

Cool, $150,000 per year is pretty good. Thanks for the update.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://metaefficient.com/uncategorized/ann-arbor-to-be-first-city-to-be-lit-with-100-leds.html/comment-page-1#comment-728957">David Keech</a>.</p>
<p>Cool, $150,000 per year is pretty good. Thanks for the update.</p>
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		By: David Keech		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Keech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s an update from the future: http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/06/ann_arbor_to_convert_223_more.html

Over the course of 6 years since this article was posted, Ann Arbor has converted more than twice as many street lights as the article mentions. The payback time is listed as four years, which is pretty close to the 3.8 projected here in 2008.  They say that the 223 lights they are converting this year will save them about $15,000 per year, so the roughly 2,000 they have already converted would be already saving the city around $150,000 per year.  They have over 5,000 lights left to convert.

This page is brilliant for comparing street lighting options: http://www.grahlighting.eu/learning-centre
It&#039;s true that high-pressure sodium lights have a slightly lower (better) watts-per-lumen rating than LEDs but they come with other drawbacks such as the light quality, colour and the higher maintenance costs due to the significantly shorter lifespan.  LEDs have been rapidly improving over the last decade so this may not have been true back in 2008 and it&#039;s likely that this information is already out of date by the time I&#039;m typing it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an update from the future: <a href="http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/06/ann_arbor_to_convert_223_more.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/06/ann_arbor_to_convert_223_more.html</a></p>
<p>Over the course of 6 years since this article was posted, Ann Arbor has converted more than twice as many street lights as the article mentions. The payback time is listed as four years, which is pretty close to the 3.8 projected here in 2008.  They say that the 223 lights they are converting this year will save them about $15,000 per year, so the roughly 2,000 they have already converted would be already saving the city around $150,000 per year.  They have over 5,000 lights left to convert.</p>
<p>This page is brilliant for comparing street lighting options: <a href="http://www.grahlighting.eu/learning-centre" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.grahlighting.eu/learning-centre</a><br />
It&#8217;s true that high-pressure sodium lights have a slightly lower (better) watts-per-lumen rating than LEDs but they come with other drawbacks such as the light quality, colour and the higher maintenance costs due to the significantly shorter lifespan.  LEDs have been rapidly improving over the last decade so this may not have been true back in 2008 and it&#8217;s likely that this information is already out of date by the time I&#8217;m typing it.</p>
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		By: Justin Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 19:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love LEDs, this is great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love LEDs, this is great.</p>
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		By: Sergey Viktorovich		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey Viktorovich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 10:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our company produces industrial lighting using CREE and NICHIA. Obtain reliable, high quality lighting with a luminous flux of up to 24kLm.
http://www.td-led.ru/product.asp?id=12172]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our company produces industrial lighting using CREE and NICHIA. Obtain reliable, high quality lighting with a luminous flux of up to 24kLm.<br />
<a href="http://www.td-led.ru/product.asp?id=12172" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.td-led.ru/product.asp?id=12172</a></p>
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		By: Prokhorov Igor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prokhorov Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nichia course in the production of high quality LED number 1 in the world. We are working on them 7 years and no complaints.

http://www.ledsvet.ru/index.php?p=index&#038;area=1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nichia course in the production of high quality LED number 1 in the world. We are working on them 7 years and no complaints.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ledsvet.ru/index.php?p=index&#038;area=1" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ledsvet.ru/index.php?p=index&#038;area=1</a></p>
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		By: Uncle B		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LED&#039;s draw less power, leaving more for slot-machines, a good thing! Gamble! don&#039;t make war! Save like Hell to live like assholes! America land of the free, land of the brave, land of the broke, land of high debts with no hope! land of the dying dollar rising prices,  higher taxes, fewer jobs, and of all things, LED lighting to find your drunken, drug addicted, way home! All bull Shiite, all black and dreary, cold blue light when we need warmth, sex substituted for love, booze, dope, for success, personal satisfaction! This cold blue light a monument to technology, a revealing of our soulless society, next, we will have artificial foods, all flavor, no nutrition, to go with our 200 mph Cameros,  Corvettes on crumbling streets, crumbling freeways good for no more than 30 mph! Where is the Hobbit Village? I need refuge, candle light fireside reading, little rounded doors, half under ground and grown over, hidden by God, wooden interiors, small and cozy, warmed, no glaring fluorescent TV screens, the smell of smoke from wood curling out from a crack in the stone stove,, and warm woolen blankets tucked all round! A life with soul, meaning, value, and a pipe full of aromatic tobacco, a glass of well aged scotch on a side table, and an ample bodied, good natured, life mate sitting across! Please Lord! Let me be born in this age next time around!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LED&#8217;s draw less power, leaving more for slot-machines, a good thing! Gamble! don&#8217;t make war! Save like Hell to live like assholes! America land of the free, land of the brave, land of the broke, land of high debts with no hope! land of the dying dollar rising prices,  higher taxes, fewer jobs, and of all things, LED lighting to find your drunken, drug addicted, way home! All bull Shiite, all black and dreary, cold blue light when we need warmth, sex substituted for love, booze, dope, for success, personal satisfaction! This cold blue light a monument to technology, a revealing of our soulless society, next, we will have artificial foods, all flavor, no nutrition, to go with our 200 mph Cameros,  Corvettes on crumbling streets, crumbling freeways good for no more than 30 mph! Where is the Hobbit Village? I need refuge, candle light fireside reading, little rounded doors, half under ground and grown over, hidden by God, wooden interiors, small and cozy, warmed, no glaring fluorescent TV screens, the smell of smoke from wood curling out from a crack in the stone stove,, and warm woolen blankets tucked all round! A life with soul, meaning, value, and a pipe full of aromatic tobacco, a glass of well aged scotch on a side table, and an ample bodied, good natured, life mate sitting across! Please Lord! Let me be born in this age next time around!</p>
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		By: Dangit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dangit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great job Dave Konkle!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job Dave Konkle!</p>
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		By: jason newman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jason newman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[my dads led&#039;s retrofit kit is way nicer than this one and a lot cheaper]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my dads led&#8217;s retrofit kit is way nicer than this one and a lot cheaper</p>
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		By: Time Tracker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Time Tracker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Outstanding work Ann Arbor!  Who&#039;s putting a $20 down on Ithaca and/or Berkeley racing to be city #2?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding work Ann Arbor!  Who&#8217;s putting a $20 down on Ithaca and/or Berkeley racing to be city #2?</p>
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		By: AZ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow... i can imagine how much these LEDs make all these places superb]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; i can imagine how much these LEDs make all these places superb</p>
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